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Episode 95: Susan Taylor Part 2 on Matters of the Heart

What About Our Money?

Simpler OneEarth Living Podcast*

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A 3-part series on  Simple Living Works! Podcast and The Common Good Podcast with co-hosts Lee Van Ham and Jerry Iversen.

** In episode 111 for mid-April, 2018, of SLW! we featured part 1 of our conversation with Susan Taylor of Just Money Advisors about her book “What About Our Money: A Faith Response” — Wrestling with Systems Where Money Is Boss.

** In early May, TCGP #95 features Susan part 2 on Matters of the Heart.

** In mid-May, SLW!  #112 features Susan part 3 on Giving and Investing. PREVIEW NOW

LEE: Just how tightly is your security connected to the amount of money you are making? Or how much money you’ve saved? Are you anxious every day about money? Do you worry that you’ll never be able to retire because you will need more money? Money has great power to surface our fears, anxieties, and insecurity? Did I say “insecurity?” Yes, isn’t it interesting that a major overseer of Wall Street is named the Securities and Exchange Commission, suggesting that money and security are tightly connected? In our conversation today with Susan Taylor, she does a great job of getting us to think about where we anchor our security. Clue: It’s not just a matter of your pocketbook. Stay with us.

I want to riff a bit on personal connections with Susan. I met Susan through two common interests: (1) how we relate to money. Deepening our understanding of the role we give to money in our lives is a core work of Faith and Money Network, in D.C. Susan is vice-president of the board. I have gone to many Faith and Money Network events over the years and served on the leadership team of several of them. I urge you to get in contact with them. The director, Mike Little, is a friend and will be glad you contacted him. Tell him how you learned about Faith and Money Network. That, too, will interest him. And (2) our interest in promoting the economic teachings that go with the sabbath and jubilee holy days in the Bible.

JERRY: Problems with “Going Green,” differences between capitalism and entrepreneurship, between libertarian and communitarian business

Next time: Giving and Investing

Hear our earlier conversation with Susan on TCGP Episode 78 : Susan Taylor of Just Money Advisors on Relating to Money in a Toxic Culture and Parenting Children about Money.

Also hear SLW! episodes 84-85: Walter Brueggemann on Money & Possessions

  • #84: Six Theses [1/1]
  • #85: brief Biblical survey [1/15]


NOTE: April is Financial Literacy Month

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*Simpler Formats for 2018SLW! Weekly Digest has been discontinued and the SLW! Podcast will be reduced to one episode per month, issued on the 15th. The complete SLWMonthly Digest on the SLW! site will continue to feature the latest posts from colleague organizations and will be updated weekly. Simpler Living Weekly Nudge will feature offerings from SLW! It comes as your free subscription to  SLW! Blog.  The Daily Nudge comes by email (send NUDGE to or by Twitter @GeraldIversen. Choose the options that work for you.

Subscribers to Simple Living Works! (SLW!) Podcast now receive The Common Good Podcast (TCGP)—which I produce and co-host—on the 1st of the month. Likewise, subscribers to TCGP receive SLW! Podcast on the 15th as a BONUS. So, SLW! Podcast subscribers will continue to receive two episodes per month. This makes good sense since the missions of both SLW! and Jubilee OneEarth Economics are so complementary and the two work together closely. For example, I blog on the Jubilee site at occasionally. Your comments on these changes are welcome.

Previous Episodes

Early April Bonus: HealthCare for All—Time for Healthcare for All—the Majority Want It and California’s Nearly There. Listen to this high energy, informative conversation with Julie Trager & Ava Torres-Bueno, two advocates for single payer healthcare. Their backgrounds in healthcare bring deep knowledge to their convictions. They tell how all of us can be served better and cheaper through California’s single payer plans.

We urge you to visit the website of California Health Care for All for helpful information and how you can help build momentum for this change in your area.

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Episode 110: Mark A. Burch is a Canadian author, speaker and transformational educator. He has published seven books about voluntary simplicity and sustainable livelihood, including The Hidden Door: Mindful Sufficiency as an Alternative to ExtinctionStepping Lightly: Simplicity for People and the Planet and The Simplicity Exercises: A Sourcebook for Simplicity Educators.  Euterra Rising is his debut novel.

Visit for his blog Dispatches From Euterra – Envisioning a Prosperous Descent - Simplicity Institute Reports (8) by Mark A. Burch

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1st-of-March Bonus: Don Hall on Transitioning Our Communities into Earth-Size and Livable for All Life

We know many changes MUST be made to keep Earth livable. At the same time, so many changes (some in the wrong direction) are underway that we tire and need to practice resilience every week. It is in that context that we welcome Don Hall and the Transitions Movement. connects you quickly with stories of transition going on around the country. Key words that pop up include: Transitions, Local Communities, Increase Resilience, Inner Transitions.

The Transitions approach states simply that three dynamics underway require urgent action: Peak Oil, Climate Change and the Economic Crisis.

Jubilee Circles function as transition groups!

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Episode 109: Richard Heinberg on Choosing to Get Off Fossil Energy—Our Best Local Choices  

Richard Heinberg of the Post-Carbon Institute. “ // // (Muse Letter)

Richard Heinberg is the author of thirteen books, including some of the seminal works on society’s current energy and environmental sustainability crisis:

Most recently, Our Renewable Future: Laying the Path for One Hundred Percent Clean Energy, co-authored with David Fridley (2016), and the well-known, The End of Growth: Adapting the Our New Economic Reality (2011)

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Jubilee Economics / The OneEarth Project colleague Lee Van Ham’s books Blinded by Progress: Breaking Out of the Illusion That Holds Us and From Ego to Eden: Our Heroic Journey to Keep Earth Livable, both part of The OneEarth Project. Also, hear The Common Good Podcast, which I co-host and produce. || NEW three minute film: Ecology and Economics—Colleagues, Not Rivals || Conversation about The OneEarth Project and the book, Blinded by Progress: Breaking Out of the Illusion That Holds Us, by Lee Van Ham, including, episode 42 || Lee’s Slide Show || Lee’s new blog series Jubilee Is Bigger Than We’d Thought: Permeates Scripture, Addresses Today’s Crises

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